The case against the New World Order

[Candid]

Are you aware of the "vaccine" inquiry?
You can see it here: https://peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk/statements/

It's most emphatically NOT a delusion.

[Fulgurator]

Are you aware of the "vaccine" inquiry?
You can see it here: https://peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk/statements/

It's most emphatically NOT a delusion.

I explained my take on that a few times. COVID is unlikely to have been a plot, in my view. It was a rushed-out vaccine, pushed by western countries that were furious over Russia's Sputnik vaccine. They rushed it through rather than see Putin rake in millions. So, since it wasn't tested properly, there are understandably consequences. That aside, all of that is a far cry from secret societies meeting up and deciding "they" are going to reduce the population.
Simple logic here: If we were in dire need to reduce the population, why all the uproar over Palestinian deaths? Global organizations are in hysteria over these war deaths and even more alarmed it will spread to Lebanon. Surely those deaths would have suited the killer jab plotters?

[Fulgurator]

How to look at the COVID phenomenon through cold, analytical logic:
First, the conspiracy theory itself. The claim is the vaccines (there were various) originated from a co-ordinated plot to reduce an unsustainable population.
That supposes all governments had to be aware.
What most probably happened.
A biological contamination escaped control. People started to report symptoms. Governments released the known facts. Said virus could be a risk to severely vulnerable people (the elderly) and it was "feared" the NHS would be under strain. Panic gradually increased as people rushed to buy toilet rolls, inspired by alarmist Americans dashing to stores. The alarmist panic snowballed and drugs companies saw a way to make huge profits. Russia was the first to rush out a vaccine while criticized for ignoring prolonged testing. Other companies then rushed out vaccines and persuaded politicians to coerce populations to take the vaccines. This soon spread to schools.
So, a whole chain of events took place and next to profit were the American conspiracy lunatic evangelists who soon realised the dollars they could rake in by setting themselves up as exposers of a global plot. These people made a lot of money by pointing the finger at secret agendas, in the old line of the faked moon landings, the Iraq War, 9/11 and so on. People when alarmed by events crave these evangelical explanations. It all seems so simple. "They" are behind it all. "They" planned it all along. This goes as far back as the great fire of Rome when it was rumoured Nero had started the fire and then played his lyre.
What we get is random events. Wait too for the next conspiracy theory. The new COVID is the imagined genocide of Palestinians. Not true. Warehouses are stocked with food in such a way the Palestinians are getting more support than any homeless American or Briton. Yet, the panic and hysteria sweeps the internet and yet again we see the rise of the conspiracy leaders.
Hysteria, paraphrenia and paranoia. People are cracking up in mass.

[Candid]

A biological contamination escaped control. People started to report symptoms.

The "symptoms" were of seasonal flu. No one had flu in the months leading up to the "vaccine".
Never before have we had a "vaccine" for any coronavirus. It's not possible, because coronaviruses mutate.
When SARSCoV2 became covid, what do you think the ID stood for?

[quietvoice]

What we get is random events.

History is random.
Human action is random.
David does not know the meaning of random.
If people are always making choices, it cannot possibly be random.
If people are acting from an internal subconscious program, it cannot possibly be random.

[Fulgurator]

A biological contamination escaped control. People started to report symptoms.

The "symptoms" were of seasonal flu. No one had flu in the months leading up to the "vaccine".
Never before have we had a "vaccine" for any coronavirus. It's not possible, because coronaviruses mutate.
When SARSCoV2 became covid, what do you think the ID stood for?

I seem to have had this virus. The symptoms were very unlike usual flu viruses. It struck me as a lab phenomenon. The worst symptom was crippling back pain and a sore tongue. So, whatever COVID was seems to have been biological warfare experimentation.
Candid, you should by now understand how the logical mind needs to interpret phenomena into a "pattern" or "schematic". When you're afraid or threatened, your logical mind attempts to create a black and white explanation. You look at events around you and see some plan behind it. This goes back to creationism and the millions of people who viewed evolution of species as a 7 day orderly "creation".
All these politicians you are convinced got together with a "shush, don't tell!" agreement is unworkable in reality. Too many things could go wrong. especially with Russia at odds with America. Couldn't Putin have "spilled the beans"?
Conspiracy always has been paraphrenia and paranoia. How do I know? Well, have you ever seen a benign conspiracy? Conspiracy ideas are always negative and hostile because that's how paranoia works. "They" aren't out there to do any good but rather to cheat, deceive, control and poison the population (Palestinians excluded apparently).
So far we've had the black death not spread by ratus ratus (now thought to be ratus norvegicus) but rather poisoned wells by "you know who" a la Quiet Voice explanation. We've had faked moon landings (with India throwing a spanner in the works) as well as ethnically planned communism. So far, all negatives. Not one benign plot. That's what paranoia is. Suspicion and pathological fear.

[Fulgurator]

"Conspiracy theories are alternate viewpoints of provided explanations; sensational stories revolving around small groups exerting control for nefarious reasons. Recent events and research have outlined myriad negative social and personal outcomes for those who endorse them. Prior research suggests several predictors of susceptibility to conspiracy theories, including narcissistic personality traits (grandiosity, need for uniqueness), cognitive processes (critical thinking, confirmation bias) and lack of education."

Stress here, "for nefarious reasons" - that is, all these elaborated theories draw on suspicion and evil intent of unknown, shadowy individuals.

Note - narcissistic disorder of personality is often comorbid with paraphrenia.

The line is that X is head and shoulders above the common herd who fail to follow the evasive sources X alone has accessed. X will often communicate with virtual communities who are also set apart from the common mob. We can see this as far back as The Manson Family where the members felt they alone could see the coming race war and that Helter Skelter was a message from the book of Revelation. These were young middle class women whose sense of reality eroded.

Conspiracy is nonsense and should be debunked. We have the power to make our own decisions on drugs, vaccines, health and sex. If our judgement tells us logically that some vaccine or other is untested and risky, we abstain. We don't need to be led by the nose by paranoid demagogues on the internet who self promote and rake in dollars.

[Candid]

Just out of interest, where have you seen me mention a conspiracy?

[Fulgurator]

I wasn't getting at you, Candid, and will grant some of the sources you quoted seem reasonable. However, as a whole on conspiracy I don't beat about the bush. Most of it is connected to paranoia.
To clarify your odd question, if you "believe" Covid was plotted by the powers that be, you are buying into conspiracy thinking, or paraphrenia.
Have you thought that it all boils down to a religion? Honestly. Religion attempts to explain the processes of evolution as a spontaneous creation. It's logic is that we are here in the form of functional beings. So, "someone" must have created us. In conspiracy, you assume a series of developing events must also have a plan or scheme behind it. That's because religious thought is programmed into upbringing and culture.
We are as we are due to millennia of evolution. We were not a 6 day project of creation. COVID was not "planned" but it evolved in interacting stages. You just read a schematic into it but there is none.
And to repeat the same point again. Can you name just one benevolent conspiracy where "they" form a secret plan to, say, improve the weather or secretly remove cancer. All these conspiracies are negative. All of them suspect - that's paranoia.

[quietvoice]

Can you name just one benevolent conspiracy ....... All these conspiracies are negative. All of them suspect - that's paranoia.

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con·spir·a·cy
/kənˈspirəsē/
noun
noun: conspiracy; plural noun: conspiracies

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
"she served five years in prison for taking part in a conspiracy to sell stolen art works"

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the action of plotting or conspiring.
"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"

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