A New Twist In The Tale

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A New Twist In The Tale

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The site has metamorphosed from the Forum Of The Living Dead, ghost site, to a free-for-all spam opportunity. I've never seen it so lively but in an unintended way
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Sad but true.
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A pity nobody is here to remove the spam.
Years ago, a site I was on gradually reduced to a ghost site. That was a site devoted to people with Asperger Syndrome. I now realise how silly that era was. Do you know what's meant in psychology by "genotype" and "phenotype"?
Genotype is your genetic heritage of some autism-related condition, such as Schizophrenia, Autism or Asperger Syndrome. Usually these conditions run in family lines.
Phenotype is who you are, factoring in how yourself and the environment " reacted" to the presence of autism genes. So, someone who was bullied for being odd, will have reacted to the experience in one way, whereas someone who comes from a supportive background will also have reacted (less negatively).
Therefore, our phenotype is who we really are and that can be quite unique and remote from whatever Syndrome we have. It's too simplistic to try and label groups of people as "Aspies", as they did a few years ago. In fact, Asperger had rejected the use of tags and labels.
Back then, I just assumed we were all a group of people who were the same. It's amazing how we can't escape ignorance without the passing of time.
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Fulgurator wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:14 pm A pity nobody is here to remove the spam.
Never a truer word...!!

It's nice that 9monthquit set this up for us but I still take issue with weedpaws as a name. He could have asked whoever set up the Uncommon Forum if he could use something similar; weedpaws is way too narrow for a forum that once upon a time had something for everyone. It rings a bell only with pot-smokers and I wouldn't mind betting many of them don't know what it means. I was one of them many years ago and no one was bellyaching over post-acute withdrawal symptoms then. If you wanted to quit, you just quit.

Further, weedpaws must rank among the lamest sites on the www: no email announcing private messages is my main beef, since I hoped 9monthquit might DO something. Before long there'll be more spam than communication here.
Years ago, a site I was on gradually reduced to a ghost site. That was a site devoted to people with Asperger Syndrome.
I've been on several other discussion sites, most of them Abraham-Hicks sites so heavily monitored and censored that members give up and go elsewhere. The latest edition is beyond twee, with more admin and moderators than members.
Therefore, our phenotype is who we really are and that can be quite unique and remote from whatever Syndrome we have. It's too simplistic to try and label groups of people as "Aspies", as they did a few years ago. In fact, Asperger had rejected the use of tags and labels.
These mental health labels change so often I've decided none of them means anything. You are very different from H, who avoids writing anything at all other than the occasional shopping list... and most of them he knows anyway; if I or his mother want him to get stuff for us we hand him the list.
Back then, I just assumed we were all a group of people who were the same. It's amazing how we can't escape ignorance without the passing of time.
:lol: No, there are vast differences.

One time I was helping a former co-worker's husband in their garden, and I said H was driving me mad, and that neither I nor his mother knew what was "wrong" with him. This professor-type man shrugged and said: "He's deaf and he has aspergers, same as me" ... which was a real eye-opener. I saw no similarities. So... how's your hearing? Because extrapolating from just two examples, I might think aspergers and deafness are part of the same thing.

Is it one of life's cruellest ironies that we finally figure out how things work when we're too old for it to be useful to us?
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Fulgurator wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:14 pmAutism or Asperger Syndrome. Usually these conditions run in family lines.
Usually, parents just go ahead and follow a childhood "vaccine schedule".
Usually, people tend to forget that "vaccines" have nothing to do with Nature and everything to do with poisoning the recipients.

More people are learning today that Autism/Asperger's is the result of "childhood vaccine" injury.
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"This professor-type man shrugged and said: "He's deaf and he has aspergers, same as me" ... "

It may help you to note that Asperger's is identical to the negative or minus symptoms of Schizophrenia. Minus symptoms mean what an autistic child lacks that normal children have. Such as motor co-ordination, normal empathy, external attention response. Also loss of contact with the outside world is a minus symptom due to "loss" of connection. Deafness generally would be a minus symptom too because normal people can hear.
Asperger's proper is made up of these deficit symptoms. In Schizophrenia, the same minus symptoms later lead to plus symptoms such as hallucinations. Plus symptoms are what you should not have but suffer all the same. Catatonia, voices, delusions, paranoia.
And above all, Asperger's is not a personality type. It may exist as one Syndrome mixed up with other syndromes.
It's worth trying to memorise the minus symptoms because it's a big aspect of clinical psychology. Mine are as follows:
Loss of connection to outside world.
Loss of social communication instincts and interpretation sphere of the brain.
Loss of time/spatial coordination.
Loss of full emotional responsiveness.
Loss of normal learning mechanisms.
And some others.
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I've been trying to make a 1920s style crystal radio. You need 1920s headphones for the task as these work more similar to the older telephones. The design is very simple. You need a tuner and coil, an antenna, a ground wire and a diode.
So far, zilch. Not a sound. I now suspect my coil was for long wave but no crystal receiver is going to pull in signals from BBC Four. Too far away. So, I now hopefully found a medium wave coil for local stations.
When I went to the Nantwich radio rally they had some antique crystal radios there for sale which some enthusiasts collect. In the 1920s it was all you had. You can hear a local station quite well but the headphones are essential.
Hopefully I can get mine to work at some point.
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I don't think you want anything from the BBC, which has become a propaganda machine for the World Economic Forum and other dodgy groups.
Did you know there's an influx of illegal non-English speakers into the UK, and that Our Starmer is housing them in luxury hotels and giving them money that he's taking from English pensioners?
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Fulgurator wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:05 pm It may help you to note that Asperger's is identical to the negative or minus symptoms of Schizophrenia. Minus symptoms mean what an autistic child lacks that normal children have. Such as motor co-ordination, normal empathy, external attention response. Also loss of contact with the outside world is a minus symptom due to "loss" of connection. Deafness generally would be a minus symptom too because normal people can hear.
H has all of that, with the exception of motor co-ordination. He regularly misses the point, even on the occasions when he can hear me.
And above all, Asperger's is not a personality type. It may exist as one Syndrome mixed up with other syndromes.
It's worth trying to memorise the minus symptoms because it's a big aspect of clinical psychology. Mine are as follows:
Loss of connection to outside world.
Loss of social communication instincts and interpretation sphere of the brain.
Loss of time/spatial coordination.
Loss of full emotional responsiveness.
Loss of normal learning mechanisms.
And some others.
Most of that doesn't apply to H, who's more sociable than I am. He goes to swim group, gym group and yoga group.

Mind you, I was more sociable in my working days and before H and I got together. It's frustrating to want to talk to him about something that matters to me, when he either can't hear me at all or hears things I haven't said. I can end up yelling, which naturally makes me feel angry. (Two of his downstairs neighbours asked me if he was hitting me.) Worse is when he thinks he's heard me and has clearly missed the point. Or I say I told you about that and he says no you didn't...
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I'm sociable in a strange way. I'm not shy to chat but basically a deeper connection or ability to relate is absent. My cat is the closest connection to me and he follows me all the time. Plus I need my own quiet space at the end of the day so it's just me and the Puss. My overall diagnosis would be complex. Childhood was unstable so that would have added to the equation. I was surprised to discover the first female bodybuilder and model Lisa Lyon suffered from ritualistic O.C.D. in childhood the same as I did. Like me she had to keep touching objects and apparently she ran around the house anti-clockwise. She described her childhood as dark. Funny we both got into weights and gym. At any rate, I think diagnosis in psychology should be what the psychologist can use to recognise patterns and syndromes but it's not really a fixed equation.
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