Mr Pickles

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I recommend The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, if you haven't already read it.
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I heard of Dawkins, yes. Still you might find Christien O Brien interesting. He pointed out the Hebrew word for "God" (Elohim) is grammatically plural. It means "the gods" created the heavens (or higher land) and the earth. Genesis appears to have originated from Sumerian creation epics and the Sumerians were polytheistic, not monotheistic. The clue also is "let us make man in our image" which suggests the translation of "God" for Elohim was wrong. "God" appears to have been a number of personalities from Sumerian creation mythology but all condensed to one figure - Yaweh. Abraham by the way was Sumerian. So, the whole thing has been lost in history to create a disorganised mess of borrowings. According to O Brien, God was an advanced race of people who taught knowledge to the Sumerians but the Hebrews thought it far simpler to just condense to one God, probably to avoid idolatory (even human sacrifices) amongst the nomadic tribes.
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This for Quiet Voice to ponder, dated 1930s. Kretschmer was an expert German geneticist and scientist:

“Very few race theories,” he asserts, “are free from political and romantic prejudices. We are today still very far from having enough material for a comprehensive racial psychology. But already today, we might say that the incidence of genius and cultural achievements are based on complex biological factors and are not at all the privilege of a certain race. The assertion: the more pure the race, the more genius and productivity, is false. It is true, fortuitous mixture of races is not favorable for cultural production; but it appears that certain good crossings of previously inbred stocks, might enhance the production of genius. I have in mind the invasion of the Germans into Italy in times of migration of nations; it is very probable that also the high standard of Babylonian Assyrian culture must be attributed to such repeated invasion,” Dr. Kretschmer asserts."
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More here:

The Nazi theory of race purity and race superiority which forms one of the chief weapons of their campaign against the Jews of Germany is struck a blow by Dr. Ernst Kretschmer, psychiatrist, famous professor of the University of Marburg.

Dr. Kretschmer, who attained a world wide reputation with his book, “Body Structure and Character,” repudiates the theory of racial superiority of the pure strain in an interview which appears in the German publication, “Die Woche,” which has reached this country.

There is no foundation for the allegation the more pure the race, the more genius, Dr. Kretschmer asserts.

Dr. Kretschmer writes an article in the German periodical “Die Woche,” which has just reached this country, entitled “Know Thyself,” in which he discusses race, race superiority, and mixed races. The Scherlverlag publishes the periodical and is in close connection with the National Socialist Party."
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It's been a good day for "the birdhouse project" despite the usual need to down tools and flee for shelter from downpours.
These projects of mine are always obsessive. Once I get an idea to do something it gets obsessive. Still, the birdbox now has a sloped roof and is as solid as a rock. It's really a bit over-kill because what we have now goes a bit beyond what a small bird gets from the shops - it's more like a garden shed in miniature.
The puss was as ever following me about. He has a tin of mackerel to scoff for supper.
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Candid wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 9:00 pm I recommend The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, if you haven't already read it.
Dawkins attacks Yahweh as a nasty piece of work. Platonism also dismantles the Yaweh or Jehova image of God because in Platonism only demons experience emotions and passions. So, given Yaweh gets jealous, has rages, meltdowns and makes mistakes, he can't even be "a god". The Yaweh portrayal is pretty ridiculous since what we see is a bullying, nasty control freak who blunders in " his" creation attempts. Plato's God is similar to Einstein's conception.
And finally.....
Quiet Voice has re-emerged but will she ever get off those crazy websites and read real scientific books or history? I tend to imagine Q.V.s sources as nine-bellied, hamburger guzzling Americans who are mostly neurotic and get zillions of "likes" for their fantasy theories. I just had the usual "friends recommendations" on Facebook - all very patronising, I think. It's like Infantile language aimed at young children, rather than adults.
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Fulgurator wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:19 pm Quiet Voice has re-emerged but will she ever get off those crazy websites and read real scientific books or history? I tend to imagine Q.V.s sources as nine-bellied, hamburger guzzling Americans who are mostly neurotic and get zillions of "likes" for their fantasy theories. I just had the usual "friends recommendations" on Facebook - all very patronising, I think. It's like Infantile language aimed at young children, rather than adults.
Did you ever consider the things that I brought up? No? You never comment directly about the information that I post, do you? You make things up in your head about what I am about instead of conversing directly with what I bring to you.

Why should I give any courtesy to you to ponder over your paragraph of writing, when you dismiss every single thing that is brought to your attention by me?

How old are you, David?
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quietvoice wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 2:23 pm Okay, music break.

Leonard Cohen, The Future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzPVKg3wyo
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You ought to check out the song and listen to the lyrics. It's written and performed by a jew and he tells you what is going on. Right from the horse's mouth.

Let's see if you can even do that, click on a music video that I recommend.
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Dear David,
What is your view of pedophilia? Do you know how the jews perform their circumcision ritual? If you don't know, please ask. It is on the order of pedophilia. They think that that is normal.

These are direct questions to you, David. Please answer.
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quietvoice wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:06 am Dear David,
What is your view of pedophilia? Do you know how the jews perform their circumcision ritual? If you don't know, please ask. It is on the order of pedophilia. They think that that is normal.

These are direct questions to you, David. Please answer.
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As an afterthought, why not ask Candid, as well?
Candid, are you aware of the pedophilic nature of the ritual that is performed on male babies in (((their))) world?
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