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Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:07 pm
by Fulgurator
quietvoice wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:21 pm But don't forget that Karl Marx invented Marxist communism.
Perspectives appear bleak. Your present system simply won't take you anywhere. Research is about your own interpretation of a balanced look at all the facts and data. It's not just cherry picking what you want to hear or already chose as preferred truth. What I hear is "dogma" and "rigid belief" but no individual analysis.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:15 pm
by Fulgurator
I had a cyber attack over the last few days. Totally crippled my phone. In fact, it switched to Indonesian. I finally found 2 weird websites in my memory that seem to have been behind it. They were sites I'd not be interested in so seemed suspicious. I tried disabling the sites and it restored my phone. This may be Russian music downloads that caused the virus, or whatever. I'm no expert but it does seem malicious. The phone kept crashing, freezing and the keys not responding. Even rebooting did nothing.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:16 pm
by quietvoice
The Father of Communism, Karl Marx, a German philosopher and economist, proposed this new ideology in his Communist Manifesto, which he wrote with Friedrich Engels in 1848.
https://europe.unc.edu/iron-curtain/his ... ph-stalin/
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

People are thinking of him in that way for a reason. He may not be the "originator" of the general idea, but he put his ideas out in such a way that it caught hold in this world.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:21 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:07 pm
quietvoice wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:21 pm But don't forget that Karl Marx invented Marxist communism.
Perspectives appear bleak. Your present system simply won't take you anywhere. Research is about your own interpretation of a balanced look at all the facts and data. It's not just cherry picking what you want to hear or already chose as preferred truth. What I hear is "dogma" and "rigid belief" but no individual analysis.
WHAT?!
You are not making sense. What does that have to do with Marx&Engels writing about Marxist-style communism?

That sounds like a bot reply, actually.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:26 pm
by quietvoice
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Did vaccines exist before Drumpf became known as the Vaxdaddy?

Did 'self-esteem' exist before Nathaniel Branden became known as the 'father of self-esteem'?

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:44 am
by Fulgurator
Marx's communist theory never materialised. It didn't happen.Most Jewish communists were also purged by Stalin such as Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev. So, it had no actual impact other than a few red flags and banners. Sparta however was a real communist society even if pre industrial. Plato also described communism as a natural consequence of the oligarchy. The idea communism originated from Jewish intellectual or the Jewish race is demonstrably wrong. It also makes little sense to blame one race for a period of history that lasted from 1917 to 1989. The USSR was a blip in history and North Korea hardly has much influence today.
Another point is you state your country is being taken over by what you term "non whites" but you ignore the idea you yourself presumably occupy a territory that belonged to native Indians, since most Americans migrated from Europe plus a lot of Irish or Slavs. Whereas the Jewish populations were indigenous to the Middle East for thousands of years. You have no real grounds to judge. Added to that, the African people of America were brought in as slaves with many Chinese railroad builders so the fact there are non white populations is a consequence of colonialism. Last time I pointed that out on a conspiracy site they had no answers so just banned me from said site. I suppose it was good entertainment to dismantle their absurd theories and muddy the waters. Most conspiracy always has thrived on mass ignorance and scapegoating.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:47 am
by Fulgurator
"Vaxdaddy" = that's a dead give-a-way. I mean, typical American internet jargon and never to be found in any serious book.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:02 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:47 am "Vaxdaddy" = that's a dead give-a-way. I mean, typical American internet jargon and never to be found in any serious book.
You seem to blame everything that you don't like about the world on "the internet, tho".

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:03 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:44 am Marx's communist theory never materialised.
It seems that everywhere I hear that we are dealing with cultural Marxism, Marxism this-n-that, are you saying they all got it wrong? This is today I am talking about.

Re: The case against the New World Order

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:16 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:44 am Another point is you state your country is being taken over by what you term "non whites" but you ignore the idea you yourself presumably occupy a territory that belonged to native Indians, since most Americans migrated from Europe plus a lot of Irish or Slavs.
The matter of the fact that we (european stock) have been here for centuries should tell you something. This is NOW our home that is being taken over by those who are NOT of our kind. Period.
Does self-defense mean anything to you, David?
Are you using that old jewish guilt trip upon me? GTFOH.

Fulgurator wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:44 amYou have no real grounds to judge.
You are showing your ........

Fulgurator wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:44 amAdded to that, the African people of America were brought in as slaves with many Chinese railroad builders so the fact there are non white populations is a consequence of colonialism. Last time I pointed that out on a conspiracy site they had no answers so just banned me from said site. I suppose it was good entertainment to dismantle their absurd theories and muddy the waters. Most conspiracy always has thrived on mass ignorance and scapegoating.
Certain people brought the african slaves over here on (((their))) ships. These (((certain people))) are found whereever there are troubles of this sort. They will 'identify' as white when it suits them, and therein lies the confusion for many.

Why do you keep on talking about theories, anyway? Why not talk about what is actually going on? You might get somewhere.