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Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:19 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:04 pm
but how do others see you?
quietvoice wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:09 pm
O H M Y G O D ,
W H A T
W I L L
O T H E R S
T H I N K ? ! !
I perceive here someone who cherry picks random information for hours on end using websites but, behind that, there's no organized education. So, no understanding of research.
I provide informational resources for you to look at.
You ignore them.
You then tell me that I am wrong about the information that you refused to look at.
Is that correct, David? Did I get that right or not?
It's a mess. You believe you are on a par with Einstein but have no conception of how much effort physics and hard maths demands.
Show me where I say anything close to that. I only said ONE thing about Einstein. He was a fraud. Period. He was not who he was and still is portrayed to be.
See, David, the only thing that you've shown me here at this board is that you will use your brain power to twist around what I have written and then make a nonsense comment out of it. Did I get that right, David?
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:51 am
by Fulgurator
The "informational resources" is one way of putting it. We've been through that 100 times. These are cherry-picked snippets from extremist and plainly ignorant websites, "selected" to support a preconceived dogmatic, even religious view. Yet, logic and order is missing because there's no proper history or political research done by yourself. No readings of Marxism, Jewish history or ancient history but just copied and pasted passages. You subjugate research to your desired world of fantasy. There's no sign of any analytical processing.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 am
by Fulgurator
I repeat Plato's proven theory. The mind becomes deluded when reasoning is subject to desire. Desire dominates the Quiet Voice information processing. What's desired is a scapegoat to offload anger and insecurity. Information that seems to support the desired reality is gathered to create a schematic. This schematic blames Jewish people for that feeling of impotence and insecurity, eclipsing the rational part of the mind. Paranoia and narcissism further confuse understanding. Plus as Plato stated. Delusion and misperception ties in with decline in virtue. Most great scientists are principled and humanitarian such as Einstein. Insane people such as Hitler had little virtue but lived in darkness. I found Plato was correct to associate ignorance with falling ethics and virtues.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:10 am
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:51 am No readings of Marxism, Jewish history or ancient history but just copied and pasted passages.
We read William S Lind's -- "Who Stole out Culture?"
1
WHO STOLE OUR CULTURE?
BY WILLIAM S. LIND
Sometime during the last half-century,
someone stole our culture. Just 50
years ago, in the 1950s, America was
a great place. It was safe. It was
decent. Children got good educations
in the public schools. Even blue-collar
fathers brought home middle-class
incomes, so moms could stay home
with the kids. Television shows
reflected sound, traditional values.
Where did it all go? How did that
America become the sleazy, decadent
place we live in today - so different
that those who grew up prior to the
'60s feel like it's a foreign country?
Did it just "happen"?
It didn't just "happen." In fact, a
deliberate agenda was followed to
steal our culture and leave a new and
very different one in its place. The
story of how and why is one of the
most important parts of our nation's
history - and it is a story almost no
one knows. The people behind it
wanted it that way.
What happened, in short, is that
America's traditional culture, which
had grown up over generations from
our Western, Greco-Romano-Christian roots,
was swept aside by an ideology. We
know that ideology best as "political
correctness" or "multi-culturalism." It
really is cultural Marxism, Marxism
translated from economic into cultural
terms in an effort that goes back not to
the 1960s, but to World War I.
Incredible as it may seem, just as the
old economic Marxism of the Soviet
Union has faded away, a new cultural
Marxism has become the ruling
ideology of America's elites. The No.
1 goal of that cultural Marxism, since
its creation, has been the destruction
of Western culture and the Christian
religion.
To understand anything, we have to
know its history. To understand who
stole our culture, we need to take a
look at the history of "political
correctness." . . .
https://old.bitchute.com/video/TyOmaFrN3D2e/
https://www.uvm.edu/~rgriffin/LindWhoStole.pdf
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:12 am
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 am
reasoning is subject to desire
Yes. I desire that the forces of evil upon this Earth be identified and eradicated to the best of our abilities. How about you, David, what is it that you desire?
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:13 am
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:06 amMost great scientists are principled and humanitarian such as Einstein.
Einstein was a fraud.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:17 am
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 1:51 am We've been through that 100 times.
Yes.
I provide a piece of information.
You dismiss that information without consideration.
You make up some story about me.
Rinse and repeat, ad nauseam.
And? I will continue to provide information for you to ignore and proclaim your smartness for ignoring information. Isn't this fun, David?
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
by Fulgurator
Where you went so wrong.
You never read ancient history or anthropolgy so you super impose modern culture and ideas onto ancient societies. The very ancient Hebrew texts were directed at a totally different environment. Circumcision existed even in ancient Egypt yet you lose that sense of perspective. That's what happens when you ignore proper history sources and copy and paste snippets from uncredited web pages. To learn about Israel you could read Josephus who described the Jewish revolt against Rome. You could read Tacitus or even Lenin. Without sources you will never understand what you claim to be research.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:24 am
by Fulgurator
William Lind - that is not a source. It immediately struck me as comic book standard. Typical of the "witchcraft only happened in Salem" mentality of America. What you eat is how you look and what you read forms the mind. Junk food and junk lit.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:39 am
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
You never read ancient history or anthropolgy so you super impose modern culture and ideas onto ancient societies.
How and where did I do that? Please give an example.
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
The very ancient Hebrew texts were directed at a totally different environment.
What texts are you speaking about? And why are you talking about them?
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
Circumcision existed even in ancient Egypt yet you lose that sense of perspective.
So? It is a barbaric practice and should be stopped immediately.
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
That's what happens when you ignore proper history sources and copy and paste snippets from uncredited web pages.
What happens?
And how does that apply to the information that I am wanting you to open your eyes and mind to?
What uncredited pages? Wherever there needs to be credit, credit is given. Show me one where I neglected to give credit, and I will correct that.
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am
To learn about Israel you could read Josephus who described the Jewish revolt against Rome. You could read Tacitus or even Lenin.
To learn about Israel. To what end? Will doing that change the facts of today? Will doing that change the former civilized society in which I grew up and is now destroyed, will doing that turn around the society in which I live for the better?
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:18 am Without sources you will never understand what you claim to be research.
What do you mean "without sources" . . . Apparently, I have many more, almost infinitely more, sources than you do.