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Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:34 pm
by quietvoice
quietvoice wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:34 pm
Is Joseph Goebbels a good source?
David, you who have qualifications for where your true information must proceed, please answer this question.
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:33 am
by Fulgurator
I don't know. It takes time to keep looking up these links and the problem is they are cherry picked. You seek out articles that are negative to build on an ingrained view. Then just post and say, "Look!" Candid could just as easily make lists of presumed bad things about cats if that's what's sought.
We both tried to get through virtue isn't determined by race but personality, choice, education.
Your sources on communism were pretty much wrong as well as the lunar missions. As well as circumcision. How many more links do I have to address and will it do any good?
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:46 am
by Fulgurator
Candid, I heard today the Israelis have finally rumbled Biden. They found huge tunnels in Gaza that connect to Egypt and it's assumed America knew these tunnels existed. Biden was doing all he could to stop the IDF going in. So, the cat is out of the bag. I'm glad the Israelis now definitely understand Americans are false friends and double sided players. Probably they knew as much from the outset. Anyway, going into Gaza has been a very smart move and Egypt is now exposed. That is if the reports are true.
Mostly I distrust Americans - met a few on my travels. They are usually plastic people and fake and out for what they can get. There are exceptions. I wouldn't trust Trump as he's typically fickle and tries to be everybody's friend but few principles.
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:26 am
by Candid
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:33 am
... virtue isn't determined by race but personality, choice, education.
and
Mostly I distrust Americans - met a few on my travels. They are usually plastic people and fake and out for what they can get.
Hmm.
I've met only good Americans, starting with the young family who lived around the corner from my family when I was pre-school. The mother introduced us to peanut butter and "jelly" sandwiches. That got my vote.
But you're right, I steer clear of cats.
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:04 pm
by quietvoice
quietvoice wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:34 pm
Is Joseph Goebbels a good source?
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:33 am
I don't know.
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Do you even know who Joseph Goebbels was?
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:52 pm
by Fulgurator
quietvoice wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:04 pm
quietvoice wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:34 pm
Is Joseph Goebbels a good source?
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:33 am
I don't know.
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Do you even know who Joseph Goebbels was?
No. I just get a sense of ever more "proofs" being offered to convince others of the "desired" Quiet Voice ideology. Such proofs tend to be the products of anger induced searches, rather than open minded research. In fact I learned by myself not to hold onto rigid opinions if I can help it.
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:54 pm
by Fulgurator
Maybe Candid can spare time to evaluate and comment on the latest Quiet Voice bombshell. Hopefully not circumcision again.
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:50 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:52 pm
quietvoice wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:04 pm
Do you even know who Joseph Goebbels was?
No.
Huh. Interesting.
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Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:09 pm
by Fulgurator
I briefly looked it up. Have you heard of E. Kretschmer, Quiet Voice? A geneticist of Nazi Germany who discretely de-bunked Hitler.
Pay attention to this please, Candid. Once more, the omniscient and researcher "extraordinaire" Quiet Voice has strayed into territory, without background knowledge. First to quote Kretschmer, whose essays I partly read:
" “The opinion,” Dr. Kretschmer writes, “that types of structure correspond to types of races are conclusively disproven by the comprehensive thorough investigations of Henkel, Weidenrauch and others. On the other hand it is highly likely that the various structural factors occur in different races and tribes in varying proportions, a fact by which certain differences of temperament in those different stocks may be explained.
“Very few race theories,” he asserts, “are free from political and romantic prejudices. We are today still very far from having enough material for a comprehensive racial psychology. But already today, we might say that the incidence of genius and cultural achievements are based on complex biological factors and are not at all the privilege of a certain race. The assertion: the more pure the race, the more genius and productivity, is false. It is true, fortuitous mixture of races is not favorable for cultural production; but it appears that certain good crossings of previously inbred stocks, might enhance the production of genius. " E. Kretschmer
Re: Plato And Psychology
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:11 pm
by Fulgurator
More here:
Rabbi H. E. Snyder was elected President of B’nai Brith Ernes Lodge of Springfield, Ill. For the first time in the history of this lodge both major offices will be filled by Rabbis: the Vice-President being the Orthodox Rabbi in this community.
The Nazi theory of race purity and race superiority which forms one of the chief weapons of their campaign against the Jews of Germany is struck a blow by Dr. Ernst Kretschmer, psychiatrist, famous professor of the University of Marburg.
Dr. Kretschmer, who attained a world wide reputation with his book, “Body Structure and Character,” repudiates the theory of racial superiority of the pure strain in an interview which appears in the German publication, “Die Woche,” which has reached this country.
There is no foundation for the allegation the more pure the race, the more genius, Dr. Kretschmer asserts.
Dr. Kretschmer writes an article in the German periodical “Die Woche,” which has just reached this country, entitled “Know Thyself,” in which he discusses race, race superiority, and mixed races. The Scherlverlag publishes the periodical and is in close connection with the National Socialist Party."