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"That guy who wouldn't take a prize? Good for him. What do you think about money that comes from usurious sources?"

I can forward a text just on that topic in Latin. It's mentioned with regard to Antoninus Pius.

Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:55 pm Think about it. Einstein was Jewish. Grigory Perelman is Jewish...

I don't think it's that cut-and-dried. Selection pressure is the biggest factor.
All creatures evolve, and where there's persecution they evolve faster. Consider garden weeds. No matter how much you weed a garden, the weeds keep coming. If you were to start uprooting more desirable plants they'd soon be gone.
All homo sapiens have the same intellectual capacity. It's education that makes the difference. That and opportunity.

Candid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:43 am All homo sapiens have the same intellectual capacity.

That is so false that it is not funny.

The idea of equality in this world is also false. In fact, what do you know, it is the Marxist communists that push the everyone is equal bullshit. You only need open eyes to see that that is absolutely not true.

quietvoice wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:22 pm The idea of equality in this world is also false.

That much I agree with. I've seen horrendous poverty in my travels and I know what it does to people.

Candid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:31 pm

quietvoice wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:22 pm The idea of equality in this world is also false.

That much I agree with. I've seen horrendous poverty in my travels and I know what it does to people.

That's not what I meant, specifically. Equality of outcomes will never be, for sure.

But inherent equality between every single member of whatever group to which the idea is applied, that is a no-brainer falsity.
Not every human is the same as every other human.
And yet, certain factions pretend that that is the case and want to force their false ideas upon the world. (Who would that be, I wonder.)

Fulgurator wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:51 pm "That guy who wouldn't take a prize? Good for him. What do you think about money that comes from usurious sources?"

I can forward a text just on that topic in Latin. It's mentioned with regard to Antoninus Pius.

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Why? I asked for YOUR thoughts, not somebody else's thoughts.

By the way, regarding books, which you enthuse about as useful sources of information, if you click on the following link, you will have access to book after book after book [of relevant to the topic] history.
Now, if you want to refute me about my general stance about anything [on the topic in question], I have scores of pages from [I don't know how many] books to which I just pointed you (although you'll have to find the points that you want to refute for yourself) and that is just ONE source for books.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/8mXbuFamPdgS/


These are read into audio format, but their original sources are ACTUAL PRINTED BOOKS that you go on and on about.


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REFUTE THIS:

“The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.”(Baba Mezia 114b)
“If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.”(Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
“Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.”(Soferim 15)
“Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.”(Sanhedrin 74b)
“When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.”(Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)
“If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.”(Sanhedrin 58b)
“If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.”(Baba Mezia 24a)
“If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.”(Sanhedrin 57a)
“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
“All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.”(Yebamoth 98a)
“Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.”
(Abodah Zarah 36b)

~~readings from the talmud

REFUTE THIS:

All that does is shift the subject to religion. For example, Christian puritans massacred pagans. Catholic conquistadores invaded South America.
Do you know which civilization the Hebrews originated from Quiet Voice or what their language was? Do you know the relationship between the Canaanites and Hebrews? Do you know anything about the religious practices of the surrounding tribes in the time the Bible was written?
What I see here is a cherry picked selection of random negatives applied to one race to build up a hate profile. At the same time, ignorance of ancient history in general.
You can this time try and answer those history questions which I framed in a way you can't just look stuff up on Google.
By the way, Judean judges stoned their lawbreakers to death and the Romans used crucifixion.

Candid wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:43 am

Fulgurator wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:55 pm Think about it. Einstein was Jewish. Grigory Perelman is Jewish...

I don't think it's that cut-and-dried. Selection pressure is the biggest factor.
All creatures evolve, and where there's persecution they evolve faster. Consider garden weeds. No matter how much you weed a garden, the weeds keep coming. If you were to start uprooting more desirable plants they'd soon be gone.
All homo sapiens have the same intellectual capacity. It's education that makes the difference. That and opportunity.

Good point but bear in mind Grunya Suherava described Asperger Syndrome before the hollocaust. 1925 in fact. The hollocaust did seem to affect some Jewish survivors the way the Andes crash survivors responded after having decided to canabalise those who died. More a making the most of life.
To add some irony, Suhereva made studies into genetic and biological factors regarding autism in children. Quiet Voice claims all autism results from vaccines.

Quiet Voice - to my mind - makes the mistake of applying modern values to ancient cultures. Lots of religious creeds and rituals were horrific by our standards today, for the most part. Quiet Voice reads some unsavoury extracts from Orthodox Judaism and proclaims - "Shock and horror! Values such as that prove some races are evil." Yet, various religious practices were worse yet.
Some Druid tribes in pre Roman Britain especially the small isles made human sacrifices to appease their gods. People were enclosed in a huge wicker man construction and the whole thing set on fire. That was Celtic religion.
It gets worse I'm afraid - for our anthropological Q.V. in arms! For example, the uproar over circumcision. That ignores how some religious cult members castrated themselves. Here, we have the Celtic religious rituals, although there were Greek mystery cults, Isis and Syrian cults.
Take Helagabalus. Presumably the cult of Helagabalus based on a deified black stone meteor would involve human sacrifices, usually noble birth children.
So, let's spell it out: To randomly take the bad extracts from one ancient religion as "proof" of racial inferiority is absurd simply because it's a theory taken out of context. You have to look at religion in historical context.