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Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:50 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:13 pm
"Anyone who does research into "these people" will happen upon what "they" are up to. Just because you are afraid to do it for yourself, does not mean that people outside of "the perpetrators" are also not knowing about it."
A bit of psychoanalysis needed. First, we all agree the COVID vaccine is better rejected although we disagree over the explanation of how said vaccine came to be.
As you can see,
I highlighted your quote to show how easily your thought processes can be said to reflect paranoia. And no need to be offended. I actually suffer from paranoia so I'm not talking down to anyone. Just the difference is I accepted my symptoms of paranoia whereas I don't think so far you considered that possibility for yourself. So. the paranoia I get is a feeling of being ridiculed behind my back when familiar people are talking. The other way paranoia works should be considered as suspicion of malignant unknown authorities. I admitted to my own issues but a lot of conspiracy advocates won't accept paranoia applies to them. It's like we need, "Hello my name is X and I suffer from paranoia!" "Hi, X and welcome to our group!"
So, looking at the quote it does assume "they" are out to get "us". In paranoia, "they" never show anything but malignant intentions and we get some of these conceptions from Bond films (SPECTRA) or The Prisoner series. Paranoia suspects, scares, bottles up anger. The danger of it is it governs and biases your thinking so you lose the overall perspective. It's also easy to cherry pick websites that feed out more agendas and conspiracies, while filtering out whatever contradicts the central religious axis of the "theory". If you apply your own reason to these theories you will see they defy logic and reality. It's not possible to get all these malignant so-called illuminati or health agenda bureaucrats to gather together to deliberately poison us. That's not doable.
I'm in no way offended. First off, you are wrong, so how can I be offended?
"Anyone who does research into "these people" will happen upon what "they" are up to. Just because you are afraid to do it for yourself, does not mean that people outside of "the perpetrators" are also not knowing about it."
You don't do research, then your words mean nothing. Sorry that you cannot see that. That's not on me.
The other way paranoia works should be considered as suspicion of malignant unknown authorities.
-1- Why would you NOT be suspicious of those who have power over you?
-2- The authorities to whom I refer are in no way "unknown"; we know who they are. We know what they are about. Sorry that you cannot see that. That's not on me.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:03 pm
by quietvoice
quietvoice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:39 pm
Candid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:05 pm
Who has come forward so far to state the whole thing had been a con? That means direct knowledge of a "please don't spill the beans" plot.
You mean those who are in on it? Surely you jest.
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For sure
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Maybe, David,
you had not noticed that,
of those who do dastardly deeds,
about zero percent of them hold HONESTY as a moral value.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:23 pm
by quietvoice
Dear David.
Check out Louis Pasteur's famous last words . . . paraphrasing, It's not about the germ/virus, it's about the terrain.
Do your own research on that because I don't feel like doing it for you.
Dear David,
Check out General Patton's famous [almost] last words . . . paraphrasing, We fought the wrong enemy! . . . or, it may not even be paraphrasing.
Do your own research on that because I don't feel like doing it for you.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:21 pm
by Fulgurator
Just a slight diversion here. Last night I just bumped across some 2nd century A.D. text that totally squashes Quiet Voice's New York source, quoted further back. Attention everybody please! Quiet Voice claimed Communism had been invented by Jewish intellectuals, on the basis of the usual sources she keeps using on the internet. Below and translated from Greek, "communism" is "factio popularis" with emphasis on "popularis". Below, it's described as simply an evolutionary stage of states and well known to Plato. It states here that the masses become strengthened when the poor find a way to empower themselves and then overthrow the aristocrats. And the interesting bit "lex ex iussu populi" the law of the people that grants all the population to seize resources "ex aequo" (".total equality"). That's what Lenin did but it's clear Greek intellectuals viewed communism as a natural process in politics. So, the theory raised by Quiet Voice is wrong, wrong and double wrong. No single race invented communism and if one race ever did, it would have to be the Greeks.
"Popularis factio roboratur, cum inops multitudo viribus obtinuerit adversus divitum facultates lexque (e) iussu populi fuerit promulgata, ut ex aequo liceat omnibus honores capessere."
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:41 pm
by Fulgurator
"Why would you NOT be suspicious of those who have power over you?
-2- The authorities to whom I refer are in no way "unknown"; we know who they are. We know what they are about."
I would say to that "cynicism" and paranoia aren't the same. My take on that, Candid, is you need to be wary of crossing from cynicism to paraphrenia. So, to be cynical of a vaccine is healthy now we know about thalidomide. To question declared authorities over various drugs and to research is also fine. The slippery slope is where you put too much trust in internet sources and fail to check the credentials of sources. Some of your sources seem credible but I noticed way back (so did Richard) that you started to gather up information on websites as gospel of the ("they out there") variety. You risk losing your critical judgement and falling into religious thinking of the cult and its leaders. Take Q.V.'s quoted sources. She totally swallowed the communism conspiracy and she has views on ancient texts (circumcision) that she views out of the context of the era. She's been told all autism is caused by vaccines and that manned lunar landings were scientifically impossible. That only happens when you accept what conspiracy leaders say as gospel. Personally, I think David Icke and other so-called experts like him are a bunch of t*****s. And that's putting it mildly.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:05 pm
by quietvoice
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:21 pm Quiet Voice claimed Communism had been invented by Jewish intellectuals,
PROVE IT.
There is a Search function at this site: prove it right here by doing a search to find where that is in fact what I said. I will wait.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:21 pm
by quietvoice
But don't forget that Karl Marx invented Marxist communism.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:30 pm
by quietvoice
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Famous person spouting words:
My basic thesis is that the Jews are a criminal people, and the Jews completely control the United States, and the Jews are using the United States as a vehicle to take over the world.
-Bobby Fischer, 181 I.Q.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:38 pm
by Fulgurator
quietvoice wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:21 pm
But don't forget that Karl Marx invented Marxist communism.
An own goal. I just gave you the texts that show Marx was a few thousand years late. The Greeks wrote of çommunism. Your sources are pretty much discredited.
Re: The case against the New World Order
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:01 pm
by quietvoice
I hope that you are doing a search . . .
Fulgurator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:21 pm Quiet Voice claimed Communism had been invented by Jewish intellectuals,
PROVE IT.
There is a Search function at this site: prove it right here by doing a search to find where that is in fact what I said. I will wait.