On Carrie White And High Functioning Autism

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Beware of one crucial psychology truth. Conspiracy, same as paranoia, obsessive compulsive disorder, has a purely negative component (usually). I speak from my own experience too. With OCD people fear some biological enemy from dirt or germs. There is suspicion. Paranoia causes us to imagine enemies, hostility or plots. All negative based. Conspiracy always forwards a hostile plot "they" are out to get you. Never to aid. We need, though, to be careful not to confuse pathological conspiracy with healthy cynicism. I happen to believe the Church distorted the real historical Jesus by discarding the gnostic texts. Yet, that's not quite the same as the Da Vinci Code conspiracy. I see it as true history getting distorted.
Most conspiracy theories are based on evil intent of some kind, never benevolent. The latest is anti semitism. Witch trials were another. Conspiracy was rampant in the later Roman world - Nero considered to have set fire to Rome (akin to the 9/11 rumours).
As to autism, much of what I experienced in symptoms were also negative. Fear, mistrust, withdrawel, delay in development. The positive side was how I learned to react to it - not the autism itself. Even phobias are fear based.
In psychology we should be aware how easy it is to stray from reality and see a distorted world.
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Fulgurator wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:09 pm Vaccines were mentioned in some 1970s autism files I have. As well as birth trauma. Autism can have various causes.
The files that you read, are they from the medical establishment?
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Fulgurator wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:45 am As to autism, much of what I experienced in symptoms . . .
What you experience is the result of vaccine injury.
What we experience is people refusing to connect the dots and recognize that vaccines are the culprit in their conditions.
There is even an acronym for it. ABV. Anything But the Vaccines.
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The research I read was from the former Soviet Union. Much of their research came from Germany. German research in clinical psychology from 1920s to 1940s was unrivalled. It was Kretschmer who discovered types of autism more often connect to somatic type, ectomorph, endomorph, mesomorph. Ectomorphs (tall, skinny, nervous types) more often suffer psychopathic or schizoid conditions. Endomorphs gravitate to bipolar.The research goes back before vaccines began. Most cases were shown in studies to have family lines that record schizophrenia, epilepsy and so on.
So, mostly it's genetic. If autism was only caused by vaccines, there would have been no autism prior to their use.
Of course, I read a lot about the subject as it affected me as well as some family members.
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Also, I often wonder about strictly applying the term "autism" to myself or Carrie White for that matter. I was in fact pretty clinical in childhood and very lower in I.Q. Even aged mid thirties my intellect was very uneven. However, there was never retardation of the brain or even backwardness. My autism symptoms are more staying isolated, little social communication, dislike of groups or crowds or organisations. The Carrie character was the same more or less.
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Available online at least is Wing's writing (she named her new diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome after she read his translated work). Tranquilla Vox, you might decide to read the whole essay below. Also Candida might find it useful in regard to "husband" and it includes a few case studies - one of them did well at Latin.

"Aetiology and pathology
Asperger (1944) considered his syndrome to be genetically transmitted. He reported that the characteristics tended to occur in the families, especially the fathers of those with the syndrome. Van Krevelen (1971) stated that, in many cases, the antecedents for generations back had been highly intellectual." (Wing and Goulde)

http://www.mugsy.org/wing2.htm
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Fulgurator wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:40 pm So, mostly it's genetic. If autism was only caused by vaccines, there would have been no autism prior to their use.
Mostly genetic. So, why did autism rates rise sharply with the increase in childhood vaccines?
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Because autism is hugely overdiagnosed, Quiet Voice. I've written about that for some time. Is Elon Musk, for example, really "autistic"? I mean, he leads chat shows, married several times, meets with the elite and bases his career on socialisation. That's why I said the S King character of Carrie White does paint a far more accurate picture of high functioning autism. I would make an exception for Anthony Hopkins whose diagnosis of mild Aspergers did seem to me to be justified - Hopkins struggled severely at school and was ridiculed.
Still, essentially autism these days is overdiagnosed. It's often confused with neurotic conditions or nerdy personality.
I agree vaccines may well have led to autism in some cases but it's always existed.
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